Accusump Info

[Kevin Beane]

I inquired about this product after someone here (Greene?) mentioned the product as a possible preventative measure for the catastrophic engine problem that seems to be caused by a lubrication failure. There is an ongoing debate as to the root cause, but it appears to me that this just might be a way of avoiding the dreaded engine failure.

Originally posted by Canton Racing Products
Our Accusump comes in several different sizes. A 1 quart, 2 quart, 3 quart, and 3 quart high press. Most small cubic inch engines can use our 1 qt, where as larger 4, 6, 8, cyl engines should use our 2 and 3 qts. In your cause a 1 or 2 qt would be best. If you have the room for the 12" long 2 Qt go with that.

The other choice to make is whether you are going to use a manual or electric valve. THe valve is how you control the discharge of oil from the accusump. To precharge your engine before start up, you would first have to store oil pressure in the unit by closing the valve before turning you engine off. THen before you restart you engine the next time you would open the valve and release that stored pressure. The manual valve is a simple and inexpensive way to control the unit, but you will have to manually turn it on and off. An electric valve system is more hands off, but is slower to recharge after discharging. This is not a problem on street applications, but can slow the unit?s reaction time in demanding race applications.

The Accusump units are easily installed by "t"ing into your existing oil cooler or remote filter lines. Putting a "t" fitting between your block and the oil cooler or filter line is a good way to do that. If you don't have a remote filter system already instaled you can use one of our adapters that sandwich inbetween your block and filter.

Here are some prices on our units and all the accessories you would need to fully install the unit.


1 # 23-900 $ 34.00 6 feet of -10 CPE hose
1 # 23-910 $ 8.25 2 pack of push on hose ends
2 # 23-960 $ 4.50 ea 1/2 npt to -10 adapter fitting
1 # 24-026 $ 167.50 2 Qt Accusump
1 # 24-270 $ 107.50 Electric Valve kit
1 # 24-200 $ 17.50 Set of Accusump mounting clamps
Plus the appropriate "t" fitting.

More information is available on our Website.

Have a nice Day,
Canton Racing Products

Their web site is http://www.cantonracingproducts.com and you can go directly to the Accusump page at http://www.accusump.com. I told them about SpyderChat and suggested they post something about a Group Buy under Commercial Sales, but I don't know if they will or not. I have no investment in this company.

It seems to me that this could be used with iMR2's Oil Cooler add-on.

EDIT:

The adapter for our car is P/N 22-545. You might want to use the EPC valve instead, which is automatic. It is more expensive than the one shown above. The total for all the parts (with EPC and adapter) is going to be somewhere around $400. That's just a bit too much, IMO. Probably the best thing to do is get the 2ZZ oil pan with baffles or get yours modified. It is kind of a crap shoot. Will your engine bite the dust before or after your warranty? Did you (or will you) buy the extended warranty?

No, the two cannot be used together. Mocal makes a plain oil-control thermostat as opposed to the one built-into that sandwhich plate you'd have to use. They agree that a 2qt Accusump would be the proper size. I think it's just too much work for me to be doing now, so I'm just going to be putting together the oil cooler. Ask iMR2 if he wants to sell the bracket and the Setrab and everything else but with the hoses/fittings to cover installing the separate thermostat and sandwich plate instead.

Of course you could use them to gether -- Ive use accusump before -- on a Triumph GT 6 that would dry up on long high speed sweepers. Im not sure it would do a lot for the Spyder. The biggest asset is the prelube before the engine starts.

Originally posted by exboyracer
Of course you could use them to gether -- Ive use accusump before -- on a Triumph GT 6 that would dry up on long high speed sweepers. Im not sure it would do a lot for the Spyder. The biggest asset is the prelube before the engine starts.

You can't realize that asset if your Accusump is hooked up to a 180 degree Fahrenheit thermostatic oil filter sandwich adapter.

[Kevin Beane]

See my edit above.

An Accusump is a good investment for any car. My mechanic sees nothing at all overly cautious about putting an Accusump in any car that gets a fair bit of autocross duty. If I had the money left over (read: credit limit) I might try this, but I'm trying to see if I can make it through my warranty period with just this engine and the oil cooler first.

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Of course you could use them to gether -- Ive use accusump before -- on a Triumph GT 6 that would dry up on long high speed sweepers. Im not sure it would do a lot for the Spyder. The biggest asset is the prelube before the engine starts.

You can't realize that asset if your Accusump is hooked up to a 180 degree Fahrenheit thermostatic oil filter sandwich adapter.[/b]

Easily if the thermo is on the out side if not there are other places to tap

[LittleRocket]

The spyder doesn't run dry. You are wasting your money if you think it does. The celica pan has no baffles only a windage tray. The 1zz has a flat baffle.

The prelube before start would be good but I wouldn't on a 500-600 engine. But that is just me. :?

[Kevin Beane]

Didn't you post a pic of a tray with baffles? I'm confused. Are you saying that long sweeping turns cannot cause the 1ZZ to suck air? If this were the case it would explain things.

[LittleRocket]

My gauge has never shown a pressure drop off.

[Kevin Beane]

Would you change the oil pan?

[LittleRocket]

That is why I installed the gauge. You know to see if there was a problem. We thought the oil might be sloshing out of the sump and up the side of the bore. So I got a pressure gauge and can say nope it doesn't.

[Kevin Beane]

Thanks for your research. So that's a dead end (attempt to explain engine problems), apparently. Back to the rings and bores.

Accusump: A good product for pre-lubing your engine. If it were a couple hundred bucks or less I'd probably do it... and it is still something to think about (transfer to replacement engine, should that occur). Less wear = better compression = more power.

Interesting that this came up when it did. I just ordered an Accusump for my new 4 Runner. I was away for a week on business. The Truck has 210 miles on it. I started it and it had loud ticking in the valves for 15-20 sec until the oil got up there. I had to find a solution.

I thought about getting one for the Spyder, may not be legal in CSP and where do you put it.

If I like it on the 4 Runner I'll post here and try it on the Spyder.