2zz is a much better engine. No reason to go through all the hassle of trying out a new motor combo.

Plus with the turbo kits already made by a few users on here and the new Rotrex kit Web should have done soon, it would blow a S/C Tc out of the water. Hell I think my N/A 2zz will kill a S/C Tc.

 

My thoughts exactly. Now, figure out how to put a twin turbo inline 6 out of a supra in there.

"How do you want your MR2?"

"Supra Sized"...

Ok. That was funnier in my head.

 

Originally posted by MoAtt
My thoughts exactly. Now, figure out how to put a twin turbo inline 6 out of a supra in there.

"How do you want your MR2?"

"Supra Sized"...

Ok. That was funnier in my head.

nope it was kinda funny out of your head too.

 

I'd rather have the TC engine over 2zz...

 

I'd rather have a MR2 Spyder over a Dodge Viper, but no one ever said I was smart either.

(J/K

)

 

2AZ might be a cool engine. I might try one some day.... What I'm really interested in is the tranny - should be MUCH stronger than the C series in the Spyders.

 

Originally posted by MoAtt
"How do you want your MR2?"

"Supra Sized"...

Now I need to take pic of my black Spyder next to my black Supra and sub-title it "What I want to be when I grow up"

 

I read on scionlife the 2az will bolt up to a 1zz/2zz tranny and again read that it won't. Also, the intake and exhaust manifolds are on opposite sides. Maybe that would make a SC SE(Super Easy). Maybe the engine and tranny together with custom half shafts. I know somebody who does spyder engine swaps that's thought about it, but if people keep being a PITA, he's gonna triple his prices, start working on lotus's and tell spyderchat to get f'ed.

 

I drove my tC out to a spyder meet several months ago. One of the guys backed his spyder up and we both popped our hoods to have a good look at it. And (I know this isn't much help) I can't exactly remember all the details, but we both came to the conclusion that it would be a rather difficult swap. Besides, there's so many options for the spyder as it is. The 2AZ-FE really isn't that much better.

Edit: Plus the S/C for the tC sucks. They've been having a lot of issues with it including broken brackets and oil leaks. The gains from it arn't all that impressive either. The whole rotrex project that Web 3.0 is working with is a much better idea.

 

i'd rather have an engine with a 'GE' head on it

 

^ +1

 

Originally posted by oilfield_trash
I read on scionlife the 2az will bolt up to a 1zz/2zz tranny and again read that it won't. Also, the intake and exhaust manifolds are on opposite sides. Maybe that would make a SC SE(Super Easy). Maybe the engine and tranny together with custom half shafts. I know somebody who does spyder engine swaps that's thought about it, but if people keep being a PITA, he's gonna triple his prices, start working on lotus's and tell spyderchat to get f'ed.

cheer up oilfield !you'll find yourself turning into ed black if you don't!

(joking)

 

I was just thinking about it, beacuse the one (and apparently only complaint) Ive read about the 2zz is that its got no torque untill you hit the upper reaches of the rpm range, the TC engine looks like it has a good deal more grunt, and with a blower on it it would proibly make our light little cars quick as sin...

 

Originally posted by outofthebox
I was just thinking about it, beacuse the one (and apparently only complaint) Ive read about the 2zz is that its got no torque untill you hit the upper reaches of the rpm range, the TC engine looks like it has a good deal more grunt, and with a blower on it it would proibly make our light little cars quick as sin...

Yup, the blower does make the car quick as sin. But you sure don't need an engine swap...the 1zz does just fine.

 

With a blower on the stock 2zz the car is quick as sin. However, the bigger displacement would eventually mean more power, but for the price of swapping in the 2AZ engine/transmission, custom turbo/sc it and probably upgrading the internals you could build a serious turbo 2zz.

dman™, xbiker beat me to it.

 

I will engineer this swap eventually. This is the last year for the zz series engines so availability will eventually become a challenge. The 2az on the other hand..... Well nearly EVERYTHING with a 4 cylinder that toyota makes will be getting a 2az. Rumor has it a dual vvt-i version is in the works too.

 

Originally posted by LittleRocket
I will engineer this swap eventually. This is the last year for the zz series engines so availability will eventually become a challenge. The 2az on the other hand..... Well nearly EVERYTHING with a 4 cylinder that toyota makes will be getting a 2az. Rumor has it a dual vvt-i version is in the works too.

Awesome, I was just throwing the idea out there for curiositys sake, but apparently its already in the works

on a side note, LR, You are a god amoungst spyderchatters

, and I am honoured to make your acquaintance

 

Originally posted by outofthebox
on a side note, LR, You are a god amoungst spyderchatters

, and I am honoured to make your acquaintance

There is something brown on your nose, here is tissue paper, clean yourself up.

 

Our cars need revs, not low end grunt.

8)

 

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on a side note, LR, You are a god amoungst spyderchatters

, and I am honoured to make your acquaintance

There is something brown on your nose, here is tissue paper, clean yourself up.[/b]

feel the love, and im not looking to get my name on a 2zz list (yet), just happy to be able to read so much about all the knowlage and help the mans brought to the table

 

Just don't try to make out with him, no matter how happy you are with your car. I can tell you from experience, he doesn't like it. And Lil' Hottie gets all upset.

 

Originally posted by MoAtt
Just don't try to make out with him, no matter how happy you are with your car. I can tell you from experience, he doesn't like it. And Lil' Hottie gets all upset.

no, it was only that one time and i dont want to talk about it....

he never calls
:jester:

 

Given the way I drive, and how I use the powerband, I think the bigger displacement will make for a better swap. Lots of grunt down low would be pretty cool and just a tad more room up top and I am happy. Plus, as LR said, if toyota is putting it in everything then the price would be comprable to that of our 1zz. I think $500 on an engine is much better than $3k.

Yup, give me a massaged 2AZ with a nice torque curve and a little head room up top with a six speed, and keep the swap cost aroung $3k and I'll be signing up!

 

2az's w/ transmission are going for $900 on ebay. Hydra makes an EMS although its kinda cost prohibitive at $1700. I think a big torque pig like this with a roots style blower would be pretty cool. I've noticed most of the current scion SC kits are centrifugal though.

I think it'd also make a hell of a drivetrain for a tube chassis car. 160 hp/ft-lbs could make 1000lbs move.

 

2az has the 3sgte / v6 / 5sfte bolt pattern so it will not mate to the spyder tranny.