+1 with a parts list and a simple how to would be great
corolla fifth gear swap on 5 speed
I came across a few references about corolla fifth gear swapping, but couldn't find any threads on it. ( Ya, I know... newbie right!) I will be driving it back and forth to school about 200+ mi. a day, 90% highway. (80 mph average = high r's right!?!) From what little I caught, this would be a very cost effective mod!! (mpg's/rpm's) If this can't be done, can anyone recommend any other cheep alternatives for this?
I bought a 01 about two months ago, (going back to school in style!!) and drove it about two weeks, before putting it up for mods. (first round any way. lol) Pre-kitty gut, (thanks for the "heads-up" posts!!) injen CAI (thanks littlerocketspyder), (mongo's, and rear wind screen, self made. sorry, single parent student), Infinity system 7541a amp w/ 2- 6020cs (pair in doors, pair in center console sides) 3.5"'s (center ch. console), and a 8" polk momo in a F.G., side fired, U.D. box. :rockon:
Look for the fiber glass U.D. sub box, to be released on SC, SOON! It seems alot of you are looking for one, and seems this is where I can do my part! Besides, I Don't want to join the party empty handed.
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I bought a 01 about two months ago, (going back to school in style!!) and drove it about two weeks, before putting it up for mods. (first round any way. lol) Pre-kitty gut, (thanks for the "heads-up" posts!!) injen CAI (thanks littlerocketspyder), (mongo's, and rear wind screen, self made. sorry, single parent student), Infinity system 7541a amp w/ 2- 6020cs (pair in doors, pair in center console sides) 3.5"'s (center ch. console), and a 8" polk momo in a F.G., side fired, U.D. box. :rockon:
Look for the fiber glass U.D. sub box, to be released on SC, SOON! It seems alot of you are looking for one, and seems this is where I can do my part! Besides, I Don't want to join the party empty handed.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rcntype @ Apr 16 2009, 02:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
It is a specal service tool from toyota. A regular gear puller wont work at they are too thick. I made one from some heavy angle iron....
There are no tricks to it. Just changing gears.
It is a specal service tool from toyota. A regular gear puller wont work at they are too thick.
I made one from some heavy angle iron....There are no tricks to it. Just changing gears.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Blackcreek @ Apr 16 2009, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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The driven gear is a press on the free gear is ont he bearing.
The trick is to boil water put the gear in the water then install it asap. It goes on without much pressure. Fwiw there are snap rings that hold the bearings inplace on the shaft. They can't move beyond the snap ring and as long as the gear is hot (expanded reducing the interfeence fit to almost nothing) youw ill have no issues.
The 03 has a talled gearing iirc. Been a while since I did the research on this one.
It is not the removal but the installation, how are you installing the input shaft gear without supporting the bellhousing side of the input shaft? That input shaft has a plastic cage on the input bearing how are you pressing on the gear without putting stress on the needle bearing cage. Also why won't a 98-2002 gear set fit, is it just 03 only?
[/b][/quote]
The driven gear is a press on the free gear is ont he bearing.
The trick is to boil water put the gear in the water then install it asap. It goes on without much pressure. Fwiw there are snap rings that hold the bearings inplace on the shaft. They can't move beyond the snap ring and as long as the gear is hot (expanded reducing the interfeence fit to almost nothing) youw ill have no issues.
The 03 has a talled gearing iirc. Been a while since I did the research on this one.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LittleRocket @ Apr 18 2009, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
[/b][/quote]
The driven gear is a press on the free gear is ont he bearing.
The trick is to boil water put the gear in the water then install it asap. It goes on without much pressure. Fwiw there are snap rings that hold the bearings inplace on the shaft. They can't move beyond the snap ring and as long as the gear is hot (expanded reducing the interfeence fit to almost nothing) youw ill have no issues.
The 03 has a talled gearing iirc. Been a while since I did the research on this one.
[/b][/quote]
The special tool to fit the 5th gear can be found here http://toyota.spx.com/detail.aspx?id=275&g=16 . Not sure of the price. You have to consider the expense of the special tool against how many times you are going to use it. Scince you probably only going to use it once, is it really worth it? Littlerockets method is probably your best option. If you're feeling adventerous, do like I did and make your own.
It is not the removal but the installation, how are you installing the input shaft gear without supporting the bellhousing side of the input shaft? That input shaft has a plastic cage on the input bearing how are you pressing on the gear without putting stress on the needle bearing cage. Also why won't a 98-2002 gear set fit, is it just 03 only?
[/b][/quote]
The driven gear is a press on the free gear is ont he bearing.
The trick is to boil water put the gear in the water then install it asap. It goes on without much pressure. Fwiw there are snap rings that hold the bearings inplace on the shaft. They can't move beyond the snap ring and as long as the gear is hot (expanded reducing the interfeence fit to almost nothing) youw ill have no issues.
The 03 has a talled gearing iirc. Been a while since I did the research on this one.
[/b][/quote]
The special tool to fit the 5th gear can be found here http://toyota.spx.com/detail.aspx?id=275&g=16 . Not sure of the price. You have to consider the expense of the special tool against how many times you are going to use it. Scince you probably only going to use it once, is it really worth it? Littlerockets method is probably your best option. If you're feeling adventerous, do like I did and make your own.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vvt-i @ Apr 18 2009, 02:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
[/b][/quote]
The driven gear is a press on the free gear is ont he bearing.
The trick is to boil water put the gear in the water then install it asap. It goes on without much pressure. Fwiw there are snap rings that hold the bearings inplace on the shaft. They can't move beyond the snap ring and as long as the gear is hot (expanded reducing the interfeence fit to almost nothing) youw ill have no issues.
The 03 has a talled gearing iirc. Been a while since I did the research on this one.
[/b][/quote]
The special tool to fit the 5th gear can be found here http://toyota.spx.com/detail.aspx?id=275&g=16 . Not sure of the price. You have to consider the expense of the special tool against how many times you are going to use it. Scince you probably only going to use it once, is it really worth it? Littlerockets method is probably your best option. If you're feeling adventerous, do like I did and make your own.
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I looked it up on Mr. T and the REPLACER,GEAR is $24.64 MSRP but a buy price of $30.00 If it make my life easier the $30.00 is well worth the cost and time savings. Thanks for the parts number..
It is not the removal but the installation, how are you installing the input shaft gear without supporting the bellhousing side of the input shaft? That input shaft has a plastic cage on the input bearing how are you pressing on the gear without putting stress on the needle bearing cage. Also why won't a 98-2002 gear set fit, is it just 03 only?
[/b][/quote]
The driven gear is a press on the free gear is ont he bearing.
The trick is to boil water put the gear in the water then install it asap. It goes on without much pressure. Fwiw there are snap rings that hold the bearings inplace on the shaft. They can't move beyond the snap ring and as long as the gear is hot (expanded reducing the interfeence fit to almost nothing) youw ill have no issues.
The 03 has a talled gearing iirc. Been a while since I did the research on this one.
[/b][/quote]
The special tool to fit the 5th gear can be found here http://toyota.spx.com/detail.aspx?id=275&g=16 . Not sure of the price. You have to consider the expense of the special tool against how many times you are going to use it. Scince you probably only going to use it once, is it really worth it? Littlerockets method is probably your best option. If you're feeling adventerous, do like I did and make your own.
[/b][/quote]
I looked it up on Mr. T and the REPLACER,GEAR is $24.64 MSRP but a buy price of $30.00 If it make my life easier the $30.00 is well worth the cost and time savings. Thanks for the parts number..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LittleRocket @ Apr 17 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Thanks for the info rocketman.I think I heated mine in an oven but still remember having to tap in on with a driver, maybe I just didn't get it hot enough. I also quit doing the research on the gear set when I went 2zz/6 speed. I thought the 98-2002 gear set would fit and it had the right tooth count so it may be the same part number until 03. I do remember pricing the parts at Toyota and they were right at 200 bucks about 2 years ago. This would be a perfect mod to do when getting a new clutch. By far the cheapest way to get a lower rpm top gear for the highway.]
The driven gear is a press on the free gear is ont he bearing.
The trick is to boil water put the gear in the water then install it asap. It goes on without much pressure. Fwiw there are snap rings that hold the bearings inplace on the shaft. They can't move beyond the snap ring and as long as the gear is hot (expanded reducing the interfeence fit to almost nothing) youw ill have no issues.
The 03 has a talled gearing iirc. Been a while since I did the research on this one.[/b]
I just called Carson Toyota they found the part # right away. 3600 RPMs @ 80MPH hear I come
Does anyone have a pic of the transaxle with the cover removed to show these two gears? Or a schematic you could mark up to identify them and show their location relative to the casing?
Are they immediately behind this cover, or is there more digging than that?
Thanks!
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Are they immediately behind this cover, or is there more digging than that?
Thanks!
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