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Navpod 2023 - Single Din 3D Print

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#1 · (Edited)
Hey all, new Spyder owner here for about 4 weeks. While doing maintenance and such I found the infamous SpyderChat and saw a ton of people doing variations of different Navpods so I thought it would be a good excuse to finally buy a 3D printer.

I printed out the 3D Navpod scan from thingiverse literally as my second and 3rd print. Went ok, but as we all find, that alone is useless. So I spent the next week learning Fusion 360 and some other things. So here is my 2 week progress.

Printed the original file. Realized its not symmetric and other problems. Made some prototypes to test print pattern, angles, do some scaling/corrections, fitment and such. Although i'm ok with post work bondo/sand but these days i'm lazy and i'll just be ok with spending more time here and working on fixing the print. You can see in the prototypes below, most all have rough edges somewhere from supports or bad angles, but i figured out how to get it better.
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Here's basically yesterdays prints, as I'm still tweaking things.

I've designed it to fit a single din JOYING AUTO 7" android screen (no volume knob version).

I was able to figure out a good print angle for quality compromise on all visible sides when printing the front and back cover separately (i had a one point thought it'd be easier as 1 piece but it was always a sacrifice for the front face or back cover in quality). Now smooth at all visible angles.
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Instead of redrawing the cover, i thought it'd be neat to just fix the problems with the original scan so I can keep the original wrinkle pattern in the print. And extended the vent holes since the radio will be mounted here now.
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Added the single din bracket at an angle to match the pocket depth.
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Added some LCD brackets to just slide in the new 7" LCD.
Here's the Joying auto 7" screen. Fits great, snug.
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Radio with IDE/LCD cable mounted.
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Radio mounted
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I deleted the old latches and redesigned kind of a locking latch that you screw in the the bottom to hide it, and it holds much better now.
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All assembled.
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I need to clean up that sticky thing from the pocket rubber at the bottom..
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I'm still doing a bit of tweaking to refine some things, I'm currently printing a new face cover that completely hides the chrome bezel. But at this point, it's just me being picky about finishing touches.

Everything is print in ABS. I haven't tried any other filament as I may just do a matte UV coating on my own.

I'm probably just going to run pwr/rem/gnd with RCAs leading to the amp to keep wires going up simple for now. The radio comes with GPS, 4G antennaes/wifi and such that you just sticky to the top of the DIN bracket inside. The mic hole isn't covered but you can use a better external mic too.

I know it's my first post, but the Spyder and the Navpod project has been fun lol. I was thinking of selling these, but it seems most the Navpod threads have gone dark so not sure if anyone still is looking for them.
 
#3 ·
That is excellent work. I like that the printing layer has a close texture to the dash.
I also like that you were able to fit in a half din sized unit and made it look very factory. This is something I would considered for a Sony ES unit I was considering.
Unfortunately it is sad that mobile and interior bits for this car has fallen by the way side for rat builds with beat up interiors. Keep up the good work.
 
#8 ·
When I'm done with the Navpod, I'll be making a new center console similar to the Midship Garage where it moves the moves the double din slot higher and lowers the climate controls. From what I've seen for anyone who purchased their Center Console from Midship, it looks like it'd be a similar time to design my own and figure out extensions needed etc..

I have this habit of upgrading my project vehicles to have many of the luxuries of newer ones lol.
 
#10 ·
Yeah I'm trying to make everything look as if they were factory upgrades/options. It'll be interesting for the Center console as it is larger to piece together. But as i don't want to sand and bondo anything, it'll be a neat challenge on how to secure and support the pieces so they can go together and not look like loose legos lol. As my own center console is cracked in the armrest, it'll definitely be the next project though.
 
#15 ·
@pwnzor - yeah i'll be offering them sooon, hopefully in a couple weeks when i finish tweaking a few things then testing it out.

@dev - lots of good effort i've seen from other peoples models, some i think do look a little tall for the doubledin versions. It's kind of like the custom fiberglass interiors, its good work but I was never a fan of shiny super custom fiberglass interior parts.

@firebert - I think I will eventually, I kind of want to sell some and try to raise money for another printer, which would help with the speed of printing new center consoles. Currently I have to split time using this printer for personal and business designs so it's almost running all the time. I think if I had more printers, I wouldn't mind printing these out cheaper for everyone as it wouldn't interfere with my real job for R&D items.

@k_swap_it - ahh i was playing around with a few models, I wasn't sure if it'd look better with just the 3x52mm holes mounted on a flat face or angled a bit towards the driver. Scaling the height without warping too much will be tricky too (trying to keep the wrinkle pattern), i might do a mix of scaling and shortening as it doesn't need to be the same depth. If i wasn't concerned about keeping the pattern, this would be done already lol.
 
#16 ·
Ya know, I don't really understand the rationale behind not sharing the files. It's one thing if you're making parts for, say, a Civic or GR86, but in the case of the Spyder, how many are you really going to sell? 20? I understand that you've spent a good bit of time so far, but in my experience you will actually spend far less time by sharing the file, because others will also sacrifice a good bit of time to improve your work. So, in the end, you will spend less time and have a better product. This is part of the reason there are so many almost/maybe navpod products. People think they're going to make some money and thus are not willing to share. But, life happens, and they realize they don't have time to perfect the product/don't have a good enough printer/setup to charge folks any real money.

For my part, I am currently scanning the factory gauge cluster and I will share freely (so folks can make their own enclosures for digital displays). If someone has access to a navpod I will also scan and release for free. It's not worth making $200 bucks, hell even a thousand bucks. I would rather just have a good product and quickly.
 
#19 ·
@sacklunch 20 would be awesome lol. Like I mentioned above, just looking to raise some cash to get another printer or so. I mean who wouldn't want a hobby to help offset cost for more hobbies? Another printer would just help on wait time, especially if i start doing something big like the center console.

Anyhow, was just throwing some draft ideas together during lunch on the gauge pod. Should be a model like the navpod or like other gauge pod designs? It looks a bit funny, or maybe i'm just used to seeing the regular navpod. The images below are the super rough, they wouldn't fit as the further you move back the front cover, the deeper the pocket hole gets so the front would have to drop down more and back cover shortened. or everything moved forward and have a flat cover in the back. But was curious how it'd look. lol.

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#43 ·
My vision was nav pod with gauge up top with cd in normal spot, but I prefer the look of the screen up top since you packaged it all in so well. With that, it'd be nice to have a triple gauge pod fitted in the DIN slot with the gauges angled slightly up and towards the driver. Is that something you can make?

I do have the a pillar triple gauge pod but it feels really close to my head and creates a huge blind spot.

 
#21 ·
I can see your view, but I wouldn't worry about it coming to market, it's nearly done. I'm just being picky about the LCD position/ hiding the bezel and moved the locking latches to be slightly tighter to minimize the gap between the front and back cover. I'm getting it to the look I want for myself and when I'm happy with that, I'll just reprint several more and get them packed for orders.

I mentioned 1 to 2 weeks because I wanted to pre-print 5-10 units before I offer them for sale and it'll give me time to see how the printer behaves with repeated prints. I think this will be a little different from other navpod threads that have post processes after the print for finishing so it's not going to depend on me having time to do the work per unit. It'll be more like print on demand.

You got to realize, I literally got my MR2 Pink in the mail today, had the car for a month and started this project 2 weeks ago. This week I'll run the wires/amp/speakers and subs and give it a go.
 
#22 ·
Nice a Spyder with a system. I am about to install two light weight subs to my system that hit hard for its small size.

ABS is good but for something that will see heat and UV have you considered nylon. They have some very good nylons these days that compete in price to ABS and are easy to print. They offer excellent heat resistance and are temperature stable. They can also absorb dye for good color matching.

Regarding sharing of files. For simple prints fine but for using more complex shapes and materials good luck with that on an easy bake printer you bought online. I would rather buy from a person that has gone though the trouble to get their printer and slicer program to do it right with enough trial and error which is hard. It ends up being cheaper.
 
#24 ·
Nice a Spyder with a system. I am about to install two light weight subs to my system that hit hard for its small size.

ABS is good but for something that will see heat and UV have you considered nylon. They have some very good nylons these days that compete in price to ABS and are easy to print. They offer excellent heat resistance and are temperature stable. They can also absorb dye for good color matching.

Regarding sharing of files. For simple prints fine but for using more complex shapes and materials good luck with that on an easy bake printer you bought online. I would rather buy from a person that has gone though the trouble to get their printer and slicer program to do it right with enough trial and error which is hard. It ends up being cheaper.
Nice! yeah doesn't seem right to have a project car without upgraded audio lol. I have a lifted Dodge Ram Hemi project truck that has two 10" kicker comp subs from early 2000s that I've passed from car to car. The Joying android unit I bought for the MRS is basically just a smaller version than what I have in my Dodge. Pretty decent radio units. Even connected a 360 camera system in the Dodge to the Joying Unit.

Ah I had just ordered an ASA 3KG spool, should be able to test with it next week. Hopefully prints like ABS. I had tried PETG when I first got the printer, but I didn't like how it printed. It seemed to not flow as well and was kind of this elastic glossy texture. I'll lookup some Nylon info. ABS is nice because it has good flow and prints fast. I just figured i'd give it a UV coat and it'd be fine.
 
#25 ·
Which is what people don't understand. I have shared files with owners that I know are not in the business of taking my work and then selling items. I let them know that even though you have the file it doesn't mean that the print will give you the same results once you put in the machine as there is a whole lot of other things involved unless you want Micky Mouse trinkets made of PLA from an easy back oven. Sadly a lot of non printer people are under the illusion that it just happens with a file and a machine.
 
#29 ·
ABS left, ASA right. ASA does not print as dark as a black even though filaments are from the same vendor. On the ASA print you can see I've filled in the gap between the front and rear sections in the top corners. Even though the 3D model there is no gap, I had to over exaggerate the corners for it to print correctly. The ABS was printed before I made the corner correction. These gaps you wouldn't notice either way once installed.

I don't know if I like the ASA black color so I'll be running the ABS myself, maybe with just a UV coat or just leave it as it is. I think I'd rather have the darker ABS filament and over time maybe it fades to where the ASA black is now? lol. I'm still looking for a darker ASA filament, right now the current ASA is polymaker. ASA tends to be more finnicky? Still playing with settings for ASA, but I guess until I get it perfect, so far ABS still looks better to me.

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#37 ·
I know you got your hands full but I have started some research for you for the relocation of the double din navigation .

Here is the Midship Garage version.
Midship Garage - 00-05 Toyota MR2 Spyder, MR-S - Center Console

I know some people would be interested in that style but I feel its over the top. A simple swap would look a lot better in my opinion.

The HVAC face plate has insert tabs that push in and I think that could be the basis of making the face plate. Double dins are universal so it can work but if not then the floating screen would also be a good option.

I have an extra HVAC face plate that I can donate to you so you can cut up and measure to make this project viable.
 
#38 ·
I know you got your hands full but I have started some research for you for the relocation of the double din navigation .

Here is the Midship Garage version.
Midship Garage - 00-05 Toyota MR2 Spyder, MR-S - Center Console

I know some people would be interested in that style but I feel its over the top. A simple swap would look a lot better in my opinion.

The HVAC face plate has insert tabs that push in and I think that could be the basis of making the face plate. Double dins are universal so it can work but if not then the floating screen would also be a good option.

I have an extra HVAC face plate that I can donate to you so you can cut up and measure to make this project viable.
Thanks! I was originally going to order from Midship until I did more research and it seems wait time was massive if customers got it, and hear the finish wasn't great, that's why I decided to try it out on my own.

Ah dang, thanks for the offer on the hvac plate but i had already ordered a face plate and extra controls for me to take measurements since I didn't want to disconnect mine since I still want to drive it lol.

I may try to make it so you can just relocate your existing climate controls, but it depends on what options I find or go with for new climate rings around the knobs.
 
#41 ·
Tabs are adjusted so it fits good. The radio is mounted at bottom and below the navpod bottom line so with that weight it's not going to pop out at all as if it was an empty navpod that is front screen heavy.

Right now I'll probably just make a wider double din pocket for temporary additional storage.

Oh and no rattle, but that would depend on your wiring. The navpod itself with radio and lcd are very snug fit to each other. I just put in subs so no rattle is definitely a requirement.

I'm making myself a new center console that switches the radio din and climate controls spot. If it turns out ok beyond prototyping, I'll probably offer it up depending on the print difficulty.

I'm kinda a tech geek so I'll probably put another 10" radio flush mount above the climate controls and below the ac vents. Then I could use the navpod as a digital gauge/navigation and backup camera.

This is probably over the top for most people but my truck project is twice as bad filled with necessary tech lol.