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Removing softtop after hardtop install?

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Some people are saying you can't remove your softtop if you install a hardtop because they hardtop uses the same brackets as the softtop.

Regardless, I know people have removed their softtops after installing a hardtop. Did they ruin their softtops in the process? I want to remove my softtop without damaging it. Possible?
 
#2 ·
Why do you want to get rid of the soft top? For reduced weight or to make money on the sale? I would be worried about driving topless without the soft top. What about a sudden rain storm or an unscheduled stop that you need to cover the car for? What if you have car troubles when you are driving around topless? It is great that we can have both.... why limit your options? Plus you really screw yourself on re-sale.
 
#3 ·
The brackets where the seatblets bolt too and the hartop rear latches clamp are part of the soft top. There is a riveted pivot point that you can drill out and remove to get the top off and keep the brackets. ORRRRrrrrr You can find a spyder in a savlage yard and buy just those brackets and simply unbolt the softtop then bolt in those salvaged brackets.

FWIW If anyone can find the brackets let me know. I need a set and or a complete softtop witht he brackets.
 
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Originally posted by 71spud+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (71spud)</div>
Why do you want to get rid of the soft top? For reduced weight or to make money on the sale? I would be worried about driving topless without the soft top. What about a sudden rain storm or an unscheduled stop that you need to cover the car for? What if you have car troubles when you are driving around topless? It is great that we can have both.... why limit your options? Plus you really screw yourself on re-sale.[/b]
The hardtop would be permanently attached . I'd remove the softtop for both reduced weight and to make a little money.

The bracket thing will be a problem, but something that's probably fixable.

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The brackets where the seatblets bolt too and the hartop rear latches clamp are part of the soft top. There is a riveted pivot point that you can drill out and remove to get the top off and keep the brackets. ORRRRrrrrr You can find a spyder in a savlage yard and buy just those brackets and simply unbolt the softtop then bolt in those salvaged brackets.
I'll try the latter. Thanks.
 
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Originally posted by mkawada+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mkawada)</div>
The hardtop would be permanently attached.[/b]
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When my hardtop finally makes it here...the hardtop will stay on permanently
Well to each his own, it is your car, but as reminder to others - the MRS is a convertible!
 
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Originally posted by fizxtoy+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fizxtoy)</div>
Originally posted by mkawada@
The hardtop would be permanently attached.
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When my hardtop finally makes it here...the hardtop will stay on permanently
Well to each his own, it is your car, but as reminder to others - the MRS is a convertible![/b]
A fact that many, many people view as a huge mistake on Toyota's part....
 
#17 ·
Originally posted by rando+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rando)</div>
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Well, if anyone can point me to which brackets these are, I'll see what it would cost to fab up some replacement pieces so that you don't have to destroy the soft top to remove it.
Soft top delete brackets would be welcomed by many (including me).[/b]
Then someone tell me what brackets we're talking about!
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I've got the car, I just don't know what soft top parts people are talking about. Judging from the hard top install photos I've seen, it doesn't look like the soft top comes into play at all...so I'm obviously missing something.

On the hard top/soft top issue....I also enjoy putting the top down on occaision - but it's a very rare occaision and I wouldn't miss top down motoring at all if I could get better visibility, more rigidity and a quieter chassis.
 
#19 ·
Thanks. The bottom bolt appears to be going into the body, but the top bolt is probably the one that everyone's talking about. I'll go pull some trim and see what I can find out now that I know the general area. Since a hard top is on my wish list once our house in San Diego sells, this is of particular interest to me.
 
#20 ·
I think I'm missing something...I just looked at the soft top and it appears to be mounted using a recessed bolt that is between the two used by the hard top clamp (which uses the same two bolts as the Autopower bar that's in my car IIRC). It would appear that the soft top does not share any bolts with the hard top clamp...but that's why I must be missing something.

EDIT - I just looked at the BGB and I think it get it now...the entire black metal part that the HT clamps bolt to are part of the soft top.
 
#23 ·
Originally posted by David Hawkins
EDIT - I just looked at the BGB and I think it get it now...the entire black metal part that the HT clamps bolt to are part of the soft top.
Yeah, the large, black, metal assembly shown in the pic above houses what you might call the Main Pivot of the soft top. That part needs reverse engineered. From a production standpoint, it would probably be best replicated in plate steel welded together or maybe a steel sheet flat pattern bent to shape and welded.
 
#26 ·
This should be a very easy fix. An enterprising member of SC who can fab stuff up, corky for example, just needs these pieces off of someone's junk soft top that got slashed.

He could then fab the brackets for everyone in the future and make a buck at the same time. Meanwhile, everyone else comes out ahead not having to destroy perfectly good soft tops.

What an idea.
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So who has a junk top and where's our fabricator? Jeez, I shoulda patented the idea and made my own revenue.