As I can count on one hand the number of times I have lowered the driver side window and kept the passenger window up, I want to wire both windows to the driver window switch. Anyone have any info, and if so, do you know if the auto-down feature will work for the passenger window also? Many thanks.[/quote]
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I'm pretty sure there's been a thread about doing this mod before, maybe even recently. I would recommend a search. There were some ways to do this, if I recall...
At any rate, can't you just use that same hand you count on to push both knobs at once? That little window can't take that long to roll down.
At any rate, can't you just use that same hand you count on to push both knobs at once? That little window can't take that long to roll down.
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Same here -- but I do finger exercisesOriginally posted by maestrowork
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That's what I do... make a V with my fingers, then press....
But that's too much work for someone....
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Whatever happened to the good ol' days of having to slide your ass three feet to the right, just so you could reach the other door and roll down the window manually?
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You guys are truly brutal. One doesn't recognize the true foolishness of his question until he reads the answers. With that said - I still want to to it!!!
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You guys are truly brutal. One doesn't recognize the true foolishness of his question until he reads the answers. With that said - I still want to to it!!!
Check spydermagazine.com
The question then was: can I make my passenger side window auto-down, like the driver's side.
The short answer:
No.
The longer answer had something to do with how a power window circuit "knows" when to stop. It has something to do with a current sensing device that can tell the motor is trying to move the window, but is unable to do so...and it shuts the motor down, secure in the knowledge theat auto-up/down has finished.
You would need a separate circuit to monitor the passenger side.
I wouldn't want to wire both windows to the same circuit. Imagine a scenario where it's raining, but you have to roll down the driver's side (to order at a drive-thru, to pass through a security gate, to brandish a weapon to the driver in the next lane (just joking!)...
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It's bad enough to have to get rain in one side of the car. If both were wired together, it'd be worse.
I'd have to say you'll have to accept the finger exercises, unless you want to do a little engineering work.
The question then was: can I make my passenger side window auto-down, like the driver's side.
The short answer:
No.
The longer answer had something to do with how a power window circuit "knows" when to stop. It has something to do with a current sensing device that can tell the motor is trying to move the window, but is unable to do so...and it shuts the motor down, secure in the knowledge theat auto-up/down has finished.
You would need a separate circuit to monitor the passenger side.
I wouldn't want to wire both windows to the same circuit. Imagine a scenario where it's raining, but you have to roll down the driver's side (to order at a drive-thru, to pass through a security gate, to brandish a weapon to the driver in the next lane (just joking!)...
It's bad enough to have to get rain in one side of the car. If both were wired together, it'd be worse.
I'd have to say you'll have to accept the finger exercises, unless you want to do a little engineering work.
Don't think this will work perfectly. If the passenger window is simply powered off the drivers window, during an "auto-down" what if the drivers window is slightly faster/slower than the passenger window? You may never get either both windows up all the way, or both windows down all the way. Oh I suppose you could press the button again, but how dorky would that be.
I'm not saying that a single-button auto-down wouldn't be cool, just don't think it can be done easily.
I'm not saying that a single-button auto-down wouldn't be cool, just don't think it can be done easily.
Its usually not necessary to roll the window down, or even point the weapon at the offending party.Originally posted by bmerton
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Wiring the two switches together isn't as easy as it would seem. This is because the passenger switch is a high current switch that controls the motor directly. The driver switch is a low current switch that controls the relays in the body computer. All the auto-down circuitry is in the body computer located in the driver's foot well. To have both windows work with the drivers switch, you would have to tie the passenger motor into the body computer. However, this is a bad idea, because the relays in the body computer were designed to handle the current of one motor and if they were asked to switch two motors they would probably break. That or the auto-down circuitry wouldn't work properly because of the additional current.
I would posit that this is a classic case of "I-want-it-simply-because-it- wasn't-built-that-way" syndrome. I have no doubt that, if the car came with a single switch for the windows, Petters would be asking how to control them separately.
Hey, we're all guilty of this at one time or another. It's just that -- when someone else does it -- we get to mock him.
Hey, we're all guilty of this at one time or another. It's just that -- when someone else does it -- we get to mock him.
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I must respond !
OK, I accept that this change is not worth the trouble, and have enjoyed the filleting I have recieved
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However, I can not accept the last reply. There is no reason to have a car built today, especially a convertible, without this feature. As for the extra expense, it could easily be offset by eliminating the following:
1) The lock windows button. Anyone use there's? If I don't want the window down I can slap the hand that is attempting to do it.
2) The unlock/lock the door button. To a point made earlier, it is easier to lean over to unlock the door than find that switch somewhere behind my knee. This is a Spyder, not a Crown Victoria.
I love this car - just some things I would have done differently.
Thank you all for your responses. They were greatly appreciated and enjoyed.
OK, I accept that this change is not worth the trouble, and have enjoyed the filleting I have recieved
1) The lock windows button. Anyone use there's? If I don't want the window down I can slap the hand that is attempting to do it.
2) The unlock/lock the door button. To a point made earlier, it is easier to lean over to unlock the door than find that switch somewhere behind my knee. This is a Spyder, not a Crown Victoria.
I love this car - just some things I would have done differently.
Thank you all for your responses. They were greatly appreciated and enjoyed.
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That button is there so ALL OF US can feel stupid after we buy the car and that dmaned passenger window "breaks".
Oooo Ooooo Ooooo! I know this one!
That button is there so ALL OF US can feel stupid after we buy the car and that dmaned passenger window "breaks".
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Been there, done that..... Next time I won't be taking the door panel off to see if there's a way to roll it up manually before checking the switch.
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I had a new stereo installed last week (yep, I've been driving without a stereo for 8 months since new) and noticed the next day that the passenger side window won't work anymore.
Drove all the way to the installer and "suggested" that they might have messed up some connection. They took off the door panel, tested the circuit and proved to me with a tester that the signal reached the door connecter and the malfunction has nothing to do with what they did the day before. Their verdict: my 8 mths old car's power window motor which I hardly use, is dead.
Was planning to have a new window motor put in this week. Due to your post, I have now saved myself time (and possibly some money). I think my window will work tomorrow
And yes, I feel stupid as I've played with that button before. Will have felt even more stupid by next week if not for you!
I would like to buy you a drink as a celebration of sort. Seriously.
Can a tenner buy you a proper drink in US? U accept Paypal?
*Edited: I've successfully "repaired" my power window*
Many thanks Animal!
I had a new stereo installed last week (yep, I've been driving without a stereo for 8 months since new) and noticed the next day that the passenger side window won't work anymore.
Drove all the way to the installer and "suggested" that they might have messed up some connection. They took off the door panel, tested the circuit and proved to me with a tester that the signal reached the door connecter and the malfunction has nothing to do with what they did the day before. Their verdict: my 8 mths old car's power window motor which I hardly use, is dead.
Was planning to have a new window motor put in this week. Due to your post, I have now saved myself time (and possibly some money). I think my window will work tomorrow
And yes, I feel stupid as I've played with that button before. Will have felt even more stupid by next week if not for you!I would like to buy you a drink as a celebration of sort. Seriously.
Can a tenner buy you a proper drink in US? U accept Paypal?
*Edited: I've successfully "repaired" my power window*
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Yes, we live in the land of plenty, where $10 will buy you a very nice drink in just about any bar. But I was just in Stockholm, where the hotel bar charged me $41 for 2 Long Island Ice Teas. I protested to the bartender, to no avail. But I got the last laugh -- when I went to check out, they weren't on my bill!
My solution to this problem was just to buy a window kit with my alarm. I have a Prestige alarm with a DEI window kit. I don't have to push either window buttons to roll them down, just hold down a button on my alarm remote and they both go down. Whoo Hoo! However there is one interesting side effect from having this installed... I didn't do it myself, but the installer seemed to have quite a bit of trouble installing it. Anyway, when I use the window buttons inside the car it will Auto-down and auto-up both windows automatically. It is very difficult if not impossible to get the windows to stay opened halfway. The driver's side will vent tho. And if i do use the auto down button inside the car for the drivers side it seems to get confused... It will stop for about 30 seconds, and them 'maybe' later it will roll down halfway or all the way. Anyway, It doesn't bother me since I never need the windows only halfway down. its all or nothin!
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1) The lock windows button. Anyone use there's? If I don't want the window down I can slap the hand that is attempting to do it.
Ha! I win i use that when my dog is in the car he's like a naughty child the more I tell him not to press it the more he puts his little paw on it, slapping him just makes him look sad.
Auto power down on both windows would have been cool. Auto power up would also be cool but apparantly we cant have that incase someone elses child gets their head caught in my window.
1) The lock windows button. Anyone use there's? If I don't want the window down I can slap the hand that is attempting to do it.
Ha! I win i use that when my dog is in the car he's like a naughty child the more I tell him not to press it the more he puts his little paw on it, slapping him just makes him look sad.
Auto power down on both windows would have been cool. Auto power up would also be cool but apparantly we cant have that incase someone elses child gets their head caught in my window.
Back to this topic...seems the new J-spec Spyders have auto-up as well as auto-down on drivers side. Now some electrically genious guy should make a kit so we all could have auto-both for both sides. Please
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(http://www.mr2roc.org/viewtopic.php?p=7450)
(http://www.mr2roc.org/viewtopic.php?p=7450)
You mean you don't have it over there?
I have it on my car (JDM) which was manufactured in Aug 2002. Just took it for granted. Thanks for giving me another reason to love my car more
+ve : 6 Sp MT, factory LSD option, non-cowboy hat logo, driver sits on the right side, gun-metal grey colour option; auto window up and down.....
-ve : Pocket Logger unreadable, power antena(no use to me), diapers don't come as stock, 180km/h speedometer and speed limit, no dash instrument light dimmer, no stock radio, Japanese manual.....
insignificant differences: emergency flare, Japanese worded labels/sticker....
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She'll eat you alive...
Yeah right. Try doing that to my stubborn 10 year old niece who thinks the coolest thing on earth is the way electric windows go up and down...
She'll eat you alive...
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