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15x7 RPF1 vs. 15x8 UL Test Results

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#1 · (Edited)
I didn't want threadjack mang's thread so I 'm posting these results here.

Initially the idea was to evaluate the performance of the 15x7 Rpf1 vs. the UL 15x9 using the same tire (225-45-15 Hankook RS3). I recorded some initial data from a brand new tire mounted on each wheels as a reference.

When it came to the track test since I could not have a second set of RS3 brand new, we ran a different comparison from which we learn a lot.

Initial Data:

15 x 7 RPF1 / RS3 new: weight 29 lbs.

15 x 8 UL / RS3 new: weight 32 lbs.

Track test data:

Car: 2002 Mr2 Spyder STR set up
Driver: Derrin Dissimo

15 x 7 RPF1 / RS3 new: weight 29 lbs.
OD: 23"
Best time: 74.0 sec.

15 x 8 UL / RS3 used: weight 27.5 lbs.
OD: 22 3/8 "
Best time: 73.2

Conclusions: Best set up, could be a shaved set of RS3's on 15x8, and after this test I'm inclined on testing a set of 15x9 on the rear next.

Video with the UL's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EVROMUha2A

Andres
 
#2 ·
AWESOME! Most people who do that sort of testing wont share it. Kudos to you for your generosity!!!

Observations/questions:

Any camber wear in the old tires? Was it evenly worn across the tread?

The rolling diameter difference between the two is less than 3%, which isn't much advantage for the worn tires, but it is in their favor. The weight difference is less than half a percent, or less than the equivalent of 1/2 of a wheel hp on a course like that, if you prefer to think of it that way. Weight difference is less than 5% reduction in unsprung mass.

This all adds up to a pretty darn good test isolating the width difference (with tire age/tread depth.)

I agree with your assessment!

On such a fast, flowing course, the weight and particularly width advantages of the narrower wheel didn't necessarily get a chance to shine. I personally still think you'd get the same conclusion on a tighter course, but the margin would probably have been smaller.

If you do test the 15x9 next, I'd put in a vote to make sure you do it on a course that is tight enough to be representative of your most competitive venue (nats?).
 
#16 ·
How much did you shave those tires?

Regarding the 15X9, I read here that all that was needed to fit them was 5mm spacers in the back and that's it. Can someone confirm or inform me better before I order my wheels?
 
#17 ·
Since all I have for good information is you guys, I ordered a set of 15X8 for my car to be on the safe side.

One of my friend has a Miata just ordered a set of 15X9 so I will be able to do some testing this summer.

I'll post what I find later on.
 
#18 ·
Its already been tested by spyderjuice, they fit fine if you aren't (Couldn't think another way to say this no offense intended) excessively lowered. 15x9 is noticably faster than 15x8s this has been known in the miata community for over a year now.

I suspect they didn't fit Andres' car because he doesn't have camber plates (correct me if I'm wrong) which move the strut shaft inwards giving more wheel clearance. Where exactly didn't the 15x9s fit your car Andres?