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2zz Crank & No Start

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3.1K views 38 replies 5 participants last post by  what_budget?  
#1 ·
Hello,

I'm finished with the 2zz & C60 swap and it's time to fire her up. When I parked the car everything ran fine except for the 1zz burning oil. Now, it cranks and healthy, but doesn't start.

I double checked all the ground wires.

I checked that the ECU, ignition coil & spark plug connections were getting power with a light probe. (screwdriver like tip with a light in it and a ground)

I tried both the 1zz & 2zz Crank position sensors.

All the wires and sensors are connected.

When I turn the key I get battery and ABS light illuminated.

New sparkplugs & coils.

When I check for fuel it seems bone dry. When I looked for a spark while cranking I couldn't tell if I was getting one to be honest.

I didn't cut/disconnect all the unnecessary wires MWR & Scotty say to cut/disconnect, but I figured that wouldn't matter.

I checked all my fuses.

I haven't checked any codes yet, but I wasn't sure if that will have any insight or not. Also, I'm using a 81 ECU.

Where should I go from here? Please help.
 
#4 ·
Please compare to my spreadsheet what you did


scoping means using a oscilloscope to test for the waveform on the terminals to verify that a pulsed signal is being sent properly. PC software based scopes that just plug into a USB port are quite inexpensive.
 
#8 ·
Is there a scanner tool I should use? I just got this one because I figured it would be fine. I'm not using any software that I'm aware of. The tool just fails to connect when plug into the car. I checked it on my 2004 Pontiac Vibe GT (daily) and it connected.
 
#15 ·
If the ECU has an immobilizer, it won't inject fuel unless it sees a key with a match-coded chip. I suppose that you could find out from the ECU part number, or from the specs of the car that it came from. No idea about the scan tool, but I see no reason why it would be affected.
 
#20 ·
Hello,

Can I get some help here please?

So I connected the 1ZZ ecu just to see what happened when I plugged in the scan tool. I got it to connect as normal. I didn't try starting it or anything. I plugged in the 2zz ECU again and it still won't connect. Does this mean I have a bad ECU?

Thank you!
 
#24 ·
ALSO:
  1. Ground connected from firewall to Block
  2. Grounds connected to 2 locations on engine head.
  3. Ground connected to Transmission.
  4. MAF arrow pointing in direction of air flow.
  5. Lift sensors both connected to Lift assembly.
  6. Vacuum lines all double checked.
 
#28 ·
I did that and it started and will idle now! Although, it won't idle unless I nurse it into an idling RMP level.

The issue I'm now concerned with is that the temperature gage is reading really high already after having let it idle for a few minutes. The coolant reservoir had been at the full but is now above it. Any ideas?

Thank you!
 
#30 ·
Yes, I followed the steps in the manual. I used those 2 hoses in the front of the vehicle. The rear was elevated on jack stands when I did it though, so maybe that's the issue. I also might have not placed the thermostat orientation correctly. I had to remove and reinstall the thermostat several times while trying to make everything fit and come together so I don't recall if the final installation was correct. I was going to start with bleeding the system now that it's on flat ground, and if the issue persisted remove the thermostat and verify orientation. Does that sound good?
 
#31 ·
Bleeding the coolant again seems to have fixed the problem of over-heating.

I'm still getting a really rough idle. I have to nurse it into an idling RMP and if I do something such as rev the engine, when it drops back down it goes too low and stalls out. Any ideas?
 
#33 ·
I'm using the MWR one. And actually no. If I let it sit and warm up it will run and then just die all on it's own. It's like the idle is just sitting at like 500 RMP's too low. It wants to idle at a speed that causes it to stall.