[jared]

if they will not do it, we could do it with an arduino pretty easily to prototype it, and then once the code and minimal circuit ( mainly just protection for the arduino) were finalized, could turn it into a low volume printed board. Prob ~ 40 hours coding. I think there is an arduino shield for canbus already, so it might not even need any custom hardware at all. I guess as a bonus you could do other things too as converting one data stream to another leaves the cpu mostly idle.

 

[MikeV]

if they will not do it, we could do it with an arduino pretty easily to prototype it, and then once the code and minimal circuit ( mainly just protection for the arduino) were finalized, could turn it into a low volume printed board. Prob ~ 40 hours coding. I think there is an arduino shield for canbus already, so it might not even need any custom hardware at all. I guess as a bonus you could do other things too as converting one data stream to another leaves the cpu mostly idle.

Well, if anyone here has an SAE login: http://papers.sae.org/970297/

 

[Uvamosk]

if they will not do it, we could do it with an arduino pretty easily to prototype it, and then once the code and minimal circuit ( mainly just protection for the arduino) were finalized, could turn it into a low volume printed board. Prob ~ 40 hours coding. I think there is an arduino shield for canbus already, so it might not even need any custom hardware at all. I guess as a bonus you could do other things too as converting one data stream to another leaves the cpu mostly idle.

You are kind of going in the direction I was orginally thinking. I have found lots of expamples of people using arduinos to interface analog inputs and out puts with Canbus system in cars. I acutally was reading last night about a BMW with a LS swap and the use of a arduino to get the cluster to work in the car.

I agree with you in that the cost of the hardware is almost laughable cheap. The problem is the codeing. I have very minimal experence with code and far less with the arduino system. I do understand the tech and how it works and know that the most expensive part is the coding (as in the time put in by the person writing the code).
I have strong feelsing that if this small bridge can be gapped between the spyders body systems and the honda ecu with a cheap effective solution that this swap will exploded in popularity.

I mean as the parts get easier to find and buy (thanks to people doing the leg work for the rest of us) more people localy around me are starting to take notice and are getting intrested. When I first started this project I was mostly meet with pessimsim and disbelief it would be doable with out hacking the car up.

 

[dblotii]

You are kind of going in the direction I was orginally thinking. I have found lots of expamples of people using arduinos to interface analog inputs and out puts with Canbus system in cars. I acutally was reading last night about a BMW with a LS swap and the use of a arduino to get the cluster to work in the car.

I agree with you in that the cost of the hardware is almost laughable cheap. The problem is the codeing. I have very minimal experence with code and far less with the arduino system. I do understand the tech and how it works and know that the most expensive part is the coding (as in the time put in by the person writing the code).
I have strong feelsing that if this small bridge can be gapped between the spyders body systems and the honda ecu with a cheap effective solution that this swap will exploded in popularity.

I mean as the parts get easier to find and buy (thanks to people doing the leg work for the rest of us) more people localy around me are starting to take notice and are getting intrested. When I first started this project I was mostly meet with pessimsim and disbelief it would be doable with out hacking the car up.

I appreciate the work you guys are doing on this, and would certainly be one of your first customers for a solution to using KPRO with the Spyder dash.

Dave

 

[BottledFedMR2]

 

[HeelToeHero]

I think mine's prettier

 

[BottledFedMR2]

I think mine's prettier

LOL. I like the stainless steel look...Paul does good work though.

 

[Uvamosk]

I think mine's prettier

I can't wait to get mine!
Only a few small things left for me to get after the header.

 

[Uvamosk]

who do i message to get this made into a sticky thread. It has alot of good information and I feel it would be a good sticky.

 

[Excalibur]

I can't wait to get mine!
Only a few small things left for me to get after the header.

Who makes that header?

 

[HeelToeHero]

Who makes that header?

PPE does

 

[Excalibur]

PPE does

For the kswap? Nice.

 

[AbandonMidship!]

Looks really nice painted or not. I lean towards the stainless look but my last couple just ended up looking like rust after two years...anyone have long term experience with the black and how it holds up?

But more importantly...How much did PPE charge you for the manifold? And do you have the specs on the runner diameters?


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[elitetuning]

Going to follow this thread very closely! Couple of questions

1) if you're using an 06 si trans, what EXACTLY needs be modified? What other parts are needed? Pics from anybody would be great.

2) with the k24a2 06 tsx motor, you need the 02-04 rsx s engine and charge harness? The tsx one won't work with kpro?

3a)from what I've read, the rbc intake manifold WONT work with the k24a2 in the mr2 without modifying the firewall, correct?

3b) at this point we know the rbb Prb and prc all work without mods correct?

4) ac bracket is being made but only if you use the 1zz compressor, run a relay switch and have kpro or the arm actually signal it on?

I'll be thinking of more questions but that's all I can remember for now

 

[mixwell]

Going to follow this thread very closely! Couple of questions

1) if you're using an 06 si trans, what EXACTLY needs be modified? What other parts are needed? Pics from anybody would be great.

2) with the k24a2 06 tsx motor, you need the 02-04 rsx s engine and charge harness? The tsx one won't work with kpro?

3a)from what I've read, the rbc intake manifold WONT work with the k24a2 in the mr2 without modifying the firewall, correct?

3b) at this point we know the rbb Prb and prc all work without mods correct?

4) ac bracket is being made but only if you use the 1zz compressor, run a relay switch and have kpro or the arm actually signal it on?

I'll be thinking of more questions but that's all I can remember for now

1) the shifting mechanism on the transmission is different from the rsx type s. not sure which one is better for this swap, since i am doing research as well.

2) rsx engine harness would make it easier. you will either have to swap out the knock sensor and crank position sensor to the k20 type s version or repin the harness at the connector.

3a) i'm going to have to agree, but can't confirm.

3b) can't say, but the RSP works. http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=102755&page=18

3c) also, the RSP would be the best oem manifold to use anyway.

4) has anyone even got AC to work yet?

 

[KseriesPower]

Going to follow this thread very closely! Couple of questions

1) if you're using an 06 si trans, what EXACTLY needs be modified? What other parts are needed? Pics from anybody would be great.

2) with the k24a2 06 tsx motor, you need the 02-04 rsx s engine and charge harness? The tsx one won't work with kpro?

3a) from what I've read, the rbc intake manifold WONT work with the k24a2 in the mr2 without modifying the firewall, correct?

3b) at this point we know the rbb Prb and prc all work without mods correct?

4) ac bracket is being made but only if you use the 1zz compressor, run a relay switch and have kpro or the arm actually signal it on?

I'll be thinking of more questions but that's all I can remember for now

1) http://www.hondata.com/techk20transmissions.html

2) TSX is drive by wire and a few other differences. Even with the RSX harness you will still need an RSX knock sensor and crank sensor.

3) PRB works, I havent tried RBB, but it should work

 

[Ikrana]

1) http://www.hondata.com/techk20transmissions.html

2) TSX is drive by wire and a few other differences. Even with the RSX harness you will still need an RSX knock sensor and crank sensor.

3) PRB works, I havent tried RBB, but it should work

And the RSP.

 

[KseriesPower]

And the RSP.

I imagine that is the best manifold that you can get without having to mod the firewall.


Having a panel to remove to work on the car is frackin awesome. Toyota shouldve done that shit from the factory

 

[Excalibur]

I wish there were a swap for the k24a2 with the rrc ported manifold, 06+tl-s throttle body with port match on both, k24a2 with flashpro, pnp harness, hytech custom header and downpipe to a custom full race exhaust, with starter map for a decent price, no more than double the 2zz swap price.

 

[elitetuning]

1) http://www.hondata.com/techk20transmissions.html

2) TSX is drive by wire and a few other differences. Even with the RSX harness you will still need an RSX knock sensor and crank sensor.

3) PRB works, I havent tried RBB, but it should work

"The transmission output speed signal frequency (low or high).

The engine and dash wiring (low frequency design splits the speed signal between the dash and ECU, high frequency design goes from the transmission to the ECU and from the ECU to the dash).

The ECU internal conversion of transmission pulses to speed (in KManager the low frequency type is the default, the high frequency type can be used if the 'Countershaft Driven Speed Sensor' option is selected).

The ECU output of speed pulses to the dash (not present with the low frequency type, necessary with the high frequency type)."

This means to work with the 02-04 engine harness and 02-04 prb ecu, you need to have hondata modify the ecu so it sends a low frequency signal and you need to modify the si trans

" Either drill and tap the rear speed sensor location to accept the 02-04 speed sensor, or swap transmissions cases.
Add the speed sensor drive ring to the final drive."

This will be helpful to others to fully understand as well.